conda-forge core meeting 2021-11-17¶
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Attendees¶
Eric D
Matthew Becker
Keith Kraus
Cheng Lee
Wolf V
Filipe
Isuru
Marcel
Adrien Delsalle - working with Wolf on mamba
John K
Ryan May
Ken Odegard
Lori Burns
CJ Wright
Agenda¶
Standing items¶
[x] intros for new folks on the call
[x] (FF) budget
current approvals?
Whenever updated numbers land, please screenshare and show the budget.
Link is in Keybase (numfocus_spreadsheets.txt)
[x] open votes
none
[x] 2022 Outreachy / GSoC
Ask each week: Any interested parties in owning this?
Discussion 2021-11-03
If we want to do outreachy again we need a champion - Filipe can’t do it next year. Same with GSoC.
GSoC is free to us
Outreachy costs us $$ ($6500). $6k for student, $500 for admin
Some interest from Jannis - he and Filipe will chat about possibly handing off
From previous meeting(s)¶
[x] (CHL): Any updates/improvements needed for anaconda.org? (Context: needed to plan internal development work for 21Q4, 22Q1)
Support for
.condapackages(IF): ability to modify the instructions – change the “To install this package with conda run one of the following: …” messages; e.g., squash (default) comments about broken labels.
(IF): repodata patches for labels
(MRB): faster CDN sync
(MRB): support for package signing
(CHL): THE MD5 THE!
Your new() agenda items¶
[x] (WV via ED): Packagingcon recap
Interesting talks:
lxroot for sandboxing; may be useful for mamba to isolate recipe
OCI image registries - would like to support in mamba
PubGrub: dart resolver implemented in Rust
interested in error messages specifically to see if we can improve error messages in current solver
mike sarahan did some rust code in conda (ronda / libronda or something?)
homebrew / homebrew linux packaging stack - proposing to homebrew “homebrew meets CF” - maybe they could help us with self-hosted runner questions?
MB - major intent was to bring people together from all the different spaces. quite a lot of time we heard from speakers or in the chat was “oh you’re doing the same thing” or “oh we should collaborate”
TODO: Set up meet-and-greet call with homebrew team?
what’s the cadence? Idea was to make it again next year but in person. has $50k in the bank (- 30% that numfocus takes). Probably need to start organizing it now.
[x] (WV): Announcement about repodata signing in https://adelsalle.medium.com/5ce65a27d7d5
[ ] Should new core members get a YubiKey? ;)
basic plan:
anaconda.org needs to get rid of MD5 sums
we can have a conda-forge key to sign metadata and repodata to support mirroring
isuru: we can’t have second class maintainers
cheng: need to check potential legal ramifications of signing
[x] (WV): cudatoolkit run-depend on __cuda?
Can use CONDA_OVERRIDE_CUDA to force install on systems without __cuda available
[x] (MRB): should we redo the repodata patches at least once a week?
I think we have some that continue to apply to new artifacts because of ongoing bugs/changes/issues
non-backwards compatible operators in conda-build?
https://github.com/conda/ceps/pull/7: add
--compat-levelto optionally remove PEP 440 compatibility operator (=~) when running conda-index
mpi changes?
todo:
make a cron job that runs show_diff.py and posts an issue + commit if it is non-empty
[x] (WV): Can we get Qt over the finish line?! :pray:
[x] (CHL,KO): Updates from Anaconda
PR to enable CDN support linux-s390x has been merged
https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-forge.github.io/issues/1123
Cleaning up permissions from conda GH org and repo
Working on GH project/board to enable community triaging
TODO: Skip mid-december meeting. One more core call at start of december.
Pushed to next meeting¶
Active votes¶
CFEPs¶
cfep-12 Removing packages that violate the terms of the source package
Stalled since May 26, 2020
Active debate about moving to “broken” vs deleting from conda-forge channel
Active vote, ends on 2020-03-11
What were the results of the vote?
Did we hear back from NumFOCUS? they did the legal seminar which is recorded
TODOs¶
2021-11-03
Self-hosting CI TODOs:
Change URL from drone.conda-forge.org. Proposals:
woodpecker.conda-forge.org
ci.conda-forge.org
Set up monitoring
Quantstack is setting up grafana for the mirror
2021-10-18
2021-09-22
[x] (WV): TensorFlow-GPU ready to go, just need to decide if GPU should get prio over CPU?!
GPU gets prio
(MRB) master to main move (https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-forge.github.io/issues/1162)
everything done except feedstocks, releases, conda-smithy, and our github actions
releases is broken, opened an issue with github
some options for feedstocks
make sure to change the upload on branch key
[x] (MRB) make an announcement on how to update local clones (moved to the issue above)
[x] (MRB) make sure to update upload_on_branch (moved to the issue above)
2020-11-18
[ ] (IF/MRB/MV) intel oneAPI
todo
[ ] (Nikolay) licensing for opencl_rt
[ ] (Nikolay) intelmpi ABI compat w/ mpich
[ ] (MRB/IF) figure out how exactly to package C/C++ compilers
[ ] (MRB/IF) think about fortran ABI
[x] (MRB) make conda-forge compilers room (add people including keith)
[ ] (MB) asking core members to move to “emeritus” status
[ ] TODO: Eric to set up quarterly check-in for all core members to see if they’re interested in remaining “active” or if they want to move to emeritus
Remove emeritus folks from having access to various credentials (api tokens, twitter password, etc.)? This would require a change to the governance doc.
2020-11-11
TODO: Think about bringing in JOSS to provide context around how we might best write papers
2020-11-03
TODO: Check on Forrest Watters permissions for core
[x] (FF) Outreachy would cost 6500 USD.
Next steps: write abstract and vote on spending of funds.
2020-10-28 2020-10-21
[ ] (Marius?) Python 2.7 migration
( ) [ ] make a hint
( ) [ ] make an announcement
( ) [ ] make the hint a lint
2020-10-07
[ ] Make sure to add the NVBug info to the cudatoolkit package that conda-forge makes (if we make one)
2020-09-09
[ ] (ED) Update governance docs with similar voting model as what got put into conda-tools (+3 with no -1 is a pass)
[ ] (SC) Write jinja template to turn institutional partners yaml into a website https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-forge.github.io/blob/master/src/inst_partners.yaml
[ ] (SC) Document what needs to be done to create an OVH account and get access
2020-08-26 Docker hub
[ ] (JK) Check in on Azure build workers to see if they have the docker hub limitation.
[ ] (JK) work with dockerhub to see if we can get OSS status
[ ] Check in again at some point. We haven’t heard back as of 2020-09-23
OVH
[ ] Shout-out on twitter at some point. “Thanks forOVHCloud for providing a VM”, etc. (maybe after we ship qt on windows with it?)
[ ] Figure out how to communicate breaking changes to users. Likely should open up an issue immediately for futher discussion. Ping @kkraus, plus capture notes from further up in these meeting notes
[ ] John K. will update the cuda toolkit feedstock on the git repo to note the NVBug link to the internal NVIDIA issue tracker
[ ] Jonathan will update docs to note that some non-exhaustive list of packages (like cuda-toolkit, MKL, etc.)
[ ] Jonathan will review this PR
[ ] (Kale) schedule conda working group
[ ] cfep-10 next steps: CJ to call a vote for feedback
[ ] cfep-06 next steps: Ask staged recipes team to champion this CFEP and move it forward
[ ] jakirkham & CJ-wright to sync on adding CUDA to the migration bot
[ ] (Eric) Scheduling Anaconda <-> conda-forge sync on anaconda.org requirements gathering
Will try and get this scheduled in the next month.
[ ] (Anthony) Reach out to NumFocus to figure out legal ramifications of not including licenses in files.
[ ] (Eric) check internally for funding levels for hotels & flying folks from the community in?
[ ] (Eric) Figure out finances of conda-forge to support themselves?
[ ] (jjhelmus) Open up CFEP for which python’s we’re going to support
[ ] (jakirkham) write a blog post on CUDA stuff we discussed today
[ ] (jakirkham) update docs on how to add CUDA support to feedstocks
[ ] (jakirkham) will open an issue on conda-smithy to investigate Drone issues. (ping the aarch team)
https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-forge.github.io/issues/954
[ ] (ED) Who we are page? Some combination of a FAQ and a who is everyone. FAQ things like:
who’s the POC for CF <> Anaconda, CF <> NumFocus, CF <> Azure
who’s the POC for the various subteams?
Informal information: roles, day jobs, bios, the whole nine yards, why you’re here, etc.
Public or internal? I don’t really care either way. Anyone feel strongly one way or the other?
opt-in to public bios
software carpentry has a large number of instructors and has https://carpentries.org/instructors
some concern about “yet another place to keep stuff up to date”
[ ] (ED) document strategies for reproducible environments using conda-forge
[ ] (UK) Static libraries stuff
[ ] Add linting hints to builds to find them
[x] Recommend how to package them -> CFEP-18
[x] We should write docs saying we don’t provide support and this is a bad idea. -> CFEP-18