conda-forge core meeting 2022-03-23¶
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Attendees¶
Name |
Initials |
GitHub ID |
Affiliation |
---|---|---|---|
Jaime Rodríguez-G. |
JRG |
jaimergp |
Quansight |
Matthew R Becker |
MRB |
beckermr |
cf |
John Kirkham |
JK |
jakirkham |
NVIDIA/cf |
Dave Clements |
DPC |
@tnabtaf |
Anaconda |
Katherine Kinnaman |
KK |
kathatherine |
Anaconda |
Marius van Niekerk |
MvN |
mariusvniekerk |
Voltron Data |
Jannis Leidel |
JL |
jezdez |
Anaconda/cf |
Chris Burr |
CB |
chrisburr |
CERN |
Keith Kraus |
KJK |
kkraus14 |
Voltron Data |
Eric Dill |
ED |
ericdill |
Voltron Data |
Matti Picus |
MP |
mattip |
Quansight/PyPy |
Saundra Monroe |
SM |
saundramonroe |
Anaconda |
Ralf Gommers |
RG |
rgommers |
Quansight |
19 people total.
Agenda¶
Standing items¶
[ ] intros for new folks on the call
[ ] (FF) budget
current approvals?
Whenever updated numbers land, please screenshare and show the budget.
Link is in Keybase (numfocus_spreadsheets.txt)
[ ] open votes
[ ] 2022 Outreachy / GSoC
Community accepted
Project proposals due Tuesday/Wednesday March 22 (Americas) / March 23 (Europe)
In addition to project propsal also need contribution tasks
And Channels for potential interns to communicate with us.
Two projects
Grayskull and Friends, Jannis, and Marcelo (pyproject.toml support)
Doc, Matt and Katherine
questions:
todos:
Have people got time to support Grayskull work? (JL, DPC will follow up)
From previous meeting(s)¶
(MP) PyPy 3.8/3.9 migration: https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-forge-pinning-feedstock/pull/2601
Your new() agenda items¶
(JRG) Status of the GPU CI Server
(JRG/RG) Helping people help conda forge: roadmap and backlog
Initial meeting some time ago: https://hackmd.io/0zGSUS71SbOdBsdLtDmGjg
start at document: https://hackmd.io/wdysI0InSHKePxQuWQyZLg
Numpy docs: https://numpy.org/neps/nep-0048-spending-project-funds.html#defining-fundable-activities-and-projects
TODO: Articulate suggested mechanism for “so you’re thinking about taking a contract to work on conda-forge”. tl;dr is you should work on a design doc with the impacted parties (or working groups, or interested folks) on the conda-forge side. Once you have agreement on the scope, delivery timeline, and anything that’s needed from the conda-forge volunteer side, go ahead and sign that contract with your payer. if you don’t do this first, you may encounter some difficulties finishing delivery of your contractual agreement with your payer.
(WV) Some more OCI registry work going on (here are some uploaded packages: https://github.com/users/wolfv/packages/container/package/osx-arm64%2Fxtensor) * Try out with oras (https://github.com/oras-project/oras): * Pull index.json:
oras pull ghcr.io/wolfv/osx-arm64/xtensor:0.24.1-h3e96240_0 -t application/vnd.conda.info.index.v1+json
* That will put a file inxtensor-0.24.1-h3e96240_0/info/index.json
* Pull package – pass (-t application/vnd.conda.package.v1
), pullinfo
-bundle:application/vnd.conda.info.v1.tar+gzip
Some initial python script here: https://gist.github.com/wolfv/3222408bd46ab3114e5b384f20252c10
Uploading 3 files per artifact:
.tar.bz2 package file (
application/vnd.conda.package.v1
).conda package file (
application/vnd.conda.package.v2
)info/index.json (
application/vnd.conda.info.index.v1+json
)info.tar.gz bundled info folder as tar.gz (
application/vnd.conda.info.v1.tar+gzip
)
(CB) Add
-fno-merge-constants
to default GCC flags? (ctng-compiler-activation-feedstock#63)going to gather more info before we make any decisions
Active votes¶
CFEPs¶
cfep-12 Removing packages that violate the terms of the source package
Stalled since May 26, 2020
Active debate about moving to “broken” vs deleting from conda-forge channel
Active vote, ends on 2020-03-11
What were the results of the vote?
Did we hear back from NumFOCUS? they did the legal seminar which is recorded
TODOs¶
2022-01-12
review Qt PR after logs are uploaded
Add cupython and cuquantum to don’t mirror list
re:
std=c++14
, Wait for Kai to comment and merge the PRCJ and Jaime coordinate to Let Maxiconda know that we can’t use their logo 2021-12-01
WV: Set up meet-and-greet call with homebrew team?
MRB: (repodata patches) make a cron job that runs show_diff.py and posts an issue + commit if it is non-empty
2021-11-03
Self-hosting CI TODOs:
Change URL from drone.conda-forge.org. Proposals:
woodpecker.conda-forge.org
ci.conda-forge.org
Set up monitoring
Quantstack is setting up grafana for the mirror
2021-10-18
2021-09-22
[x] (WV): TensorFlow-GPU ready to go, just need to decide if GPU should get prio over CPU?!
GPU gets prio
(MRB) master to main move (https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-forge.github.io/issues/1162)
everything done except feedstocks, releases, conda-smithy, and our github actions
releases is broken, opened an issue with github
some options for feedstocks
make sure to change the upload on branch key
[x] (MRB) make an announcement on how to update local clones (moved to the issue above)
[x] (MRB) make sure to update upload_on_branch (moved to the issue above)
2020-11-18
[ ] (IF/MRB/MV) intel oneAPI
todo
[ ] (Nikolay) licensing for opencl_rt
[ ] (Nikolay) intelmpi ABI compat w/ mpich
[ ] (MRB/IF) figure out how exactly to package C/C++ compilers
[ ] (MRB/IF) think about fortran ABI
[x] (MRB) make conda-forge compilers room (add people including keith)
[ ] (MB) asking core members to move to “emeritus” status
[ ] TODO: Eric to set up quarterly check-in for all core members to see if they’re interested in remaining “active” or if they want to move to emeritus
Remove emeritus folks from having access to various credentials (api tokens, twitter password, etc.)? This would require a change to the governance doc.
2020-11-11
TODO: Think about bringing in JOSS to provide context around how we might best write papers
2020-11-03
TODO: Check on Forrest Watters permissions for core
[x] (FF) Outreachy would cost 6500 USD.
Next steps: write abstract and vote on spending of funds.
2020-10-28 2020-10-21
[ ] (Marius?) Python 2.7 migration
( ) [ ] make a hint
( ) [ ] make an announcement
( ) [ ] make the hint a lint
2020-10-07
[ ] Make sure to add the NVBug info to the cudatoolkit package that conda-forge makes (if we make one)
2020-09-09
[ ] (ED) Update governance docs with similar voting model as what got put into conda-tools (+3 with no -1 is a pass)
[ ] (SC) Write jinja template to turn institutional partners yaml into a website https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-forge.github.io/blob/master/src/inst_partners.yaml
[ ] (SC) Document what needs to be done to create an OVH account and get access
2020-08-26 Docker hub
[ ] (JK) Check in on Azure build workers to see if they have the docker hub limitation.
[ ] (JK) work with dockerhub to see if we can get OSS status
[ ] Check in again at some point. We haven’t heard back as of 2020-09-23
OVH
[ ] Shout-out on twitter at some point. “Thanks forOVHCloud for providing a VM”, etc. (maybe after we ship qt on windows with it?)
[ ] Figure out how to communicate breaking changes to users. Likely should open up an issue immediately for futher discussion. Ping @kkraus, plus capture notes from further up in these meeting notes
[ ] John K. will update the cuda toolkit feedstock on the git repo to note the NVBug link to the internal NVIDIA issue tracker
[ ] Jonathan will update docs to note that some non-exhaustive list of packages (like cuda-toolkit, MKL, etc.)
[ ] Jonathan will review this PR
[ ] (Kale) schedule conda working group
[ ] cfep-10 next steps: CJ to call a vote for feedback
[ ] cfep-06 next steps: Ask staged recipes team to champion this CFEP and move it forward
[ ] jakirkham & CJ-wright to sync on adding CUDA to the migration bot
[ ] (Eric) Scheduling Anaconda <-> conda-forge sync on anaconda.org requirements gathering
Will try and get this scheduled in the next month.
[ ] (Anthony) Reach out to NumFocus to figure out legal ramifications of not including licenses in files.
[ ] (Eric) check internally for funding levels for hotels & flying folks from the community in?
[ ] (Eric) Figure out finances of conda-forge to support themselves?
[ ] (jjhelmus) Open up CFEP for which python’s we’re going to support
[ ] (jakirkham) write a blog post on CUDA stuff we discussed today
[ ] (jakirkham) update docs on how to add CUDA support to feedstocks
[ ] (jakirkham) will open an issue on conda-smithy to investigate Drone issues. (ping the aarch team)
https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-forge.github.io/issues/954
[ ] (ED) Who we are page? Some combination of a FAQ and a who is everyone. FAQ things like:
who’s the POC for CF <> Anaconda, CF <> NumFocus, CF <> Azure
who’s the POC for the various subteams?
Informal information: roles, day jobs, bios, the whole nine yards, why you’re here, etc.
Public or internal? I don’t really care either way. Anyone feel strongly one way or the other?
opt-in to public bios
software carpentry has a large number of instructors and has https://carpentries.org/instructors
some concern about “yet another place to keep stuff up to date”
[ ] (ED) document strategies for reproducible environments using conda-forge
[ ] (UK) Static libraries stuff
[ ] Add linting hints to builds to find them
[x] Recommend how to package them -> CFEP-18
[x] We should write docs saying we don’t provide support and this is a bad idea. -> CFEP-18